User talk:Sandralpond

Oregon FHCs
Gilliam and Sherman counties - they go to Boardman and Hermiston FHCs, not Grant County. Jefferson County, go to Deschutes County (Bend FHC), just across county line. Harney and Malheur counties (particular those in south part of them) go to Winnemucca, Nevada. Noticed Halfway (Pine Valley FHC) is new one for Baker County beside long time one at Baker City. Dsammy 17:03, 30 August 2011 (UTC) (Oregonian native)

"Looking for help" box
I'm glad to see there are people interested in helping to clean up the wiki.

I was surprised to see the "Looking for help" box appear with my discussion within the Contributors Meeting for 19 July 2011. This seems to be a misinterpretation of my intent. I'm not looking for help. I'm wanting to discuss this issue with wiki contributors. I placed an item on the agenda and expanded on the topic within the discussion page, as instructed. Please let me know why you inserted this box. Charlene Pipkin 21:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Wrong type of transcription
The transcripton for Tech meeting agenda is not the kind we wanted. I am talking about who said what about what and what urls and examples shown, etc. That is the area we are missing out too much. Transcription from the recording is what I and others are seeking. Dsammy 09:17, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Welcome...
Hello Sandralpond!

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File name for image uploads
Hi Sandra, I've noticed that many of the files you are uploading start with Downloaded and then a string of numbers before a recognisable name is then included. It would be helpful if these filenames were edited so as to be more user friendly before the images are uploaded. I'm guessing that you may be processing files that other users have submitted, but would it be possible for the files to be renamed before upload? --Steve 13:05, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Outdated Pages notice to LoisFowles
Hi, Sandra. Lois Fowles was helping me move stuff from the old Research Guidance into the Wiki. We didn't have a good template to name them, so we added the "outdated" template. They probably should not be removed until someone compares them with info already in the Wiki. Fran Jensen knows a lot about that project. A list of them is in the pages related to FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Copy Research Guidance and Help Content into the Wiki. Hope this helps.AdkinsWH 03:53, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Stub Removal
We at the FamilySearch Wiki would like to use this article, Humboldt County, Nevada for a featured article on the Main Page of the Wiki. However, the word "stub" appears at the very top of the page. If you feel there is enough content to give researchers a good place to work from - we need YOU to remove the word "stub" from the article before we can feature it. Thank you for your consideration. Joy Wyzer17

When redirection is a better option to deletion
Hi Sandra, I've noticed that you've been adding reasons to page that have been marked for deletion. I'm glad you are doing this as it helps other understand the reason for the request.

While there are some good reasons why deleting a page is justified there are also circumstances where a redirect is a better option.

So if you find out the reason why a user has requested that a page is deleted is due to the content having been moved - in these cases change the delete template for a redirect. --Steve 15:38, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Featured Article consideration: Germans from Russia Archives and Libraries
Hi Sandralpond,

Your contribution on the Wiki: Germans from Russia Archives and Libraries is being considered for the main page featured articles. Are there any enhancing things that you would like to do to this article before we post it on the Main Page of the Wiki?

joy Wyzer17 20:28, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank YOU / Your Article is Selected
Hi Sandralpond,

The FamilySearch Research Wiki] is delighted to let you know that the Baltimore County, Maryland article you helped create will become a Featured Article that is highlighted on the Main Page of the Wiki. It will appear there for seven days. Thank you for your excellent work – you have given readers/researcher important access to records. Your contributions are appreciated and will assist others in finding their ancestors. You have made a difference in research!

Please note:

We invite you to do any enhancing, editing or changing to this article before we post it. If you are considering an edit we ask that it be completed by October 19, 2011. Within a few days of this date this article will post. If you feel that you do not want your article up as yet as a Featured Article please let me know. Thank you for your time and effort!

joy Wyzer17 14:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Sandralpond, Thank you for your posting: We found Sandbox: County Shell (09 Dec), and Sandbox: Historical and Genealogical Societiesin the Maintenance-Requested Moves and have moved them to User:AdkinsWH/Sandbox: County Shell (09 Dec) and Sandbox: Historical and Genealogical Societies If not needed use the delete template. Sandralpond 23:59, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you AdkinsWH 15:22, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Civil War
Thanks, Sandra, for moving some of the Civil War sandboxes. I am working on moving the rest and attaching them to the main Civil War project page (which I am still working on). MarkhamMJ 23:22, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

I am naming them FamilySearchWiki:WikiProject United States Civil War/Sandbox.cw1936, though what comes after Sandbox will vary of course. I am deleting some of the sandboxes, but some are still needed or we may use them later. MarkhamMJ 16:00, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Headings on County Pages for Utah
Hi Sandralpond,

We appreciate the discussions and decisions made by a community of experts and interested parties regarding headings on the county pages especially for New York and Illinois, We want to adopt many of those changes and adapt some specifically for Utah. Will you please review the page for FamilySearch Wiki:WikiProject Utah County Headings county headings in Utah and make comments on its discussion page?

Some volunteers for WikiProject Utah have already begun adapting the county pages. Your great suggestions will be implemented later, and we need to move now to prepare for a big push in January 2012.

Making your comments on the discussion page will allow for transparency, progress and improvement.

Thank you Wilma Adkins, WikiProject Utah manager; Marilyn Markham and Patsy Hendrickson, content specialists; and Dawne Hole and (Joy) Wyzer17, communications and volunteers liaisons.

Wyzer17 15:05, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Sandbox merger 2-different people
HI,

wyzer17 is my sandbox.

Merlin and Joy Price are totally different people. Would it be possible for you to fix it back.

Thank you for all that you do.

wyzer17 joy 19:39, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Delete added as requested
Thanks for the heads up. AdkinsWH 21:58, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

I got another notice about this today. I thought the delete template had been added. will double check. (Sandbox:WAFixSidebarProblems) AdkinsWH 05:57, 14 April 2012 (UTC) PS: You are doing soooo much great work! Hope you are pleased too!

Move proposal - Durham vs County Durham
Hi Sandra, I noticed that you removed the move template from Talk:Durham page, but you did not add any comments about whether you supported the proposal or not. I would be interested to hear and understand your point of view. --Steve 15:21, 27 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Sandra, I see that you moved the Talk:Durham to Talk:County Durham and removed the move request template. My request was not just about moving this single page, but if agreed would result in many pages being renamed in the wiki. For this reason I hope to generate a discussion about the pros and cons for such a move. Nobody else has voiced their opinion, but I am still reluctant to follow through on making these changes without hearing some other views. --Steve 16:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Pages created to hide red links
Hi Sandra,

Thanks for your message on the deletion requests.

The reason I marked those pages for deletion was because they were apparently created for the sole purpose of hiding the red links on the main pages for those locations. Most wikis have a policy on not doing this. The pages currently contain no content and only a link back to the page where the reader just came from. This can be very frustrating to users as users like me will click on the links to read what is there only to find there is nothing there. There are over 35 topics links for the locations of Prussia - Pommern and Prussia - Posen and most had no content whatsoever.

The red links provide a valuable service of informing users that there is no content on that topic as of yet, and that the content is being requested. Additionally, red linked pages are automatically listed in the special page: Special:WantedPages for users looking for pages needing content.

Deleting the pages that were created only to hide the red links would not prevent the addition of content in the future, but would instead encourage it and would stop frustrating readers that click on 30 out of 35 links only to find nothing there. Lotje2 23:14, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Serbia
Hello Sandra, thank you for helping with the Serbia page.

I was trying to find some missing content from the page but was unable to. I hope that you can recover the Featured Content and Jurisdictions and Letter Writing Guide and Websites under Research Tools.

Thank you. Pysnaks 14:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Protected pages
Thank you for un-protecting those pages for me. There only appear to be four others that were accidentally left protected after they were changed to un-portals. I will flag them in the same way. Thank again. Lotje2 22:11, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Changes to Stockholm page
Hi Sandra,

I appreciate your work to move the content for Stockholm City out of the Portal: namespace, but I do not understand why you put in content from Slovenia! Also, there were many other links on the Stockholm City page that have completely disappeared. If a Portal page is moved out of the Portal namespace, then the new page should have all the content and functionality of the old page before the old page is deleted.

Thanks MorrisGF 15:55, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Emigration to Omaha Nebraska - 1920 - Ruth Svenborg Johanson
Hi,

My aunt Ruth Svenborg Johansson emigrated to Omaha Nebraska 1920. She was born in Halland Sweden June 14th 1901. Her parents were Per Johansson and Albertina Petronella Svensdotter. Sourcefilm number 1644657.Sailin date Batch number: CO2138-5 -Reservation number system origin: Sweden-EASy

I would like to know if she was married in the USA and if she got any children?

How do I proceed with family research?

Thanks in advance Roland

Dear Roland,

As I am a volunteer and on the Support Staff I am not an expert on Research but hope the following page will give you some help: Nebraska,Nebraska Digital Collections, Nebraska Marriages, Vital Records and futher research may be found on FamilySearch site at familysearch, family-trees, catalog-search and getting_started. Also a check at gethelp they call back and help. Hope this will help. Sandralpond 15:09, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

The following is a talk page you can use to communicate to all on the Wiki. User talk:Laholmare and a User page to organize you self and to work on. User:Laholmare Sandralpond 15:12, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Denmark Archives and Libraries Link problems:
Sandra, I am a former CSM. As I was researching in Denmark, I found two inappropriate links in the above mentioned article. Since the last two links under the heading, "Other Libraries", lead to 1) a gaming site and 2) to a commercial site, I did not delete them. Since you have worked with linking extensively, I thought you might know who to contact who might block the offender, if deemed necessary. (I could not figure out who had changed the links.) All other links in this article are correct except for one dead link about three above the heading "Military Records". Thanks in advance for your help. Gloriaannclark 02:38, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Denbighshire
Does your newly created category of Denbighshire Parishes refer to historic Denbighshire (i.e. pre-1974) or modern Denbighshire (i.e. post 1976)?

So far you have included places which were either in the historic counties of Denbighshire and Merionethshire, and are now in either the modern counties of Denbighshire, Conwy or Wrexham!!!

See Denbighshire.

--Bromaelor 15:36, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

"Saskatchewan Business Records &amp; amp; Commerce" deletion txs and query
Thank you kindly for deleting the page "Saskatchewan Business Records &amp; Commerce" I had not noticed the &amp; in the title when wiriting the article which should have only said "Saskatchewan Business Records &amp; Commerce" do I have to put a slash before the ampersand so that it does not come up as ascii coding?, or should I retitle the article "Saskatchewan Business Records and Commerce" and spell the word AND out and leave out the ampersand altogether.? I am new on this wiki, how do I resolve the ampersand problem in the title? Kind RegardsSaskgenweb 01:55, 27 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you most kindly for your reply on my talk page, much appreciated!!Saskgenweb 18:07, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Utah stakes
Hi, Sandra, I reverted your link edits on the Utah County, Utah LDS Church Wards and Branches page, so they will work when the stake pages are restored. Thanks, AdkinsWH 21:11, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Adding categories to templates
Hi Sandra,

I think you are doing a wonderful job adding categories to templates. May I offer one suggestion, particularly for any template that might be Transcluded, that you wrap the category in tags otherwise the category is added to every page that uses the template.

For example use &lt;noinclude&gt;&lt;/noinclude&gt; to add the example category to a template. Also worth noting is avoid adding any spaces or line breaks after the end of the template code proper.

If you have any question about these suggestions, just let me know. --Steve 20:44, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Massachusetts 1855 State Census (FamilySearch Historical Records)/Known Issues
The best way to remove a link that connects to a page is to go to that page and remove the link. You can also replace it with a new link.

Example: Massachusetts 1855 State Census (FamilySearch Historical Records)/Known Issues can be changes to Massachusetts 1855 State Census (FamilySearch Historical Records).

1st question are you going to remove or replace the links:

to remove: Step 1 Go to the What is linked Here under Toolbox on the right and click each item into a new tab Step 2 go onto page on e at a time and go into wiki text highlight link, delete and save.

To replace Step 1 find what you will replace the link with. step 2 Go to the What is linked Here under Toolbox on the right and click each item into a new tab Step 3 go onto page on e at a time and go into wiki text highlite link, Place the new link over, and save.

Dear Sandra,

I just noticed one of my entries was removed and I am wondering why that occurred. It was a graph I created with translations of the 1938 census. This was to help the patrons use these films and understand why they would be helpful to them especially when doing Jewish research.

Sonja Nishimoto

German/Slavic Research consultant.

Wales
I'm attempting to do a full restructure of the Wales pages!

Currently, I feel that it is difficult for people to understand the difference between the concepts of an "ecclesiastical parish", a "civil parish" and a "community". Add to that the restructuring of counties in 1974 and 1996 (at at other times in some cases!) and it leads to total confusion!

So I believe that it would make far more sense to haveone-stop pages on "places" and standardise on the current status, so the page Chirk, Wrexham for example, would refer to "Chirk, Denbighshire", "Chirk, Clwyd" and "Chirk, Wrexham" and include information on the "ecclesiastical parish of Chirk", the "civil parish of Chirk" and the "community of Chirk", and in reality anything else to do with the town of Chirk. I know the LDS Library would prefer to base everything on historic ecclesiastical parishes but this is far too narrow a view.

I'm starting in the north of the country and working my way south. This will take time, will mean lots of changes, and occasionally many redirects!!! But is will all fit together "eventually" ;-) --Bromaelor 13:08, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Lack of Access
Hi Sandra

Thanks for your quick response. I remember you embedded the link to the Romanian National Archives. Maybe a more precise description of the problem will help. When I go to a wiki page to edit it, I get into the rich editor just fine. I can type and save text. But when I click &lt;r&gt; or the icons to add a link, category, the properties box starts loading, but then my computer freezes up. I waited 10 minutes today for the dialog box to finish loading, to no avail. What can be done about that?

Thanks again. Wiliam Green


 * Yay! You were right. I was going to try editing on my Chrome, but I forgot.  I was able to reference and link using Chrome.  However, when I try to add a category, the category list doesn't load.  I get the message Bad Gateway: The server returned an incomplete or invalid response.  I think that may be due to my internet connection here in Romania.  I did create a new page: Romania Citizenship records.  Will that be added to the "topics" section of the Romania Portal Page when the category "Romania" is put on the page or do I have to do something else.  I have about 10 more pages I want to add to the Romania section on different records available here.  So the question goes for all 10.  Then I want to add the pages in Romanian.  I have added one called "Romania - Cercetarea Istoriei Familiei" (Romania - Researching Family History).  I would like to link that to the Romania Portal Page and then link the other pages in Romanian to it.  Is this all possible?  Thanks.  Also, do I need to notify the missionary at support that my linking problem has been resolved?Billgreen 17:02, 27 May 2013 (UTC)William Green ::Ok, I am learning.  I did figure out how to add a category without the Editor, and how to add a topic to the Romania Portal Page.  You can see the new page on Romanian Citizenship records.  Unfortunately, I accidentally created a duplicate page on citizenship records in the process.  I have requested that it be deleted.  I will be adding more pages later this week, I hope.Billgreen 17:32, 27 May 2013 (UTC)William Green

Photo size
Hi Sandra!

Thank you for editing and categorizing this page: Columbia, South Carolina

Do you have a suggestion for how I can get the photo a little larger? I have tried different sizes. Is there a standard size?

Thank you!

SavingStories 01:47, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Trouble again in Romania
Hi Sandra

I am still not getting all the buttons to work. When I try to add a category, link (it used to work) or image, the search list comes up blank--nothing found. I was working on the Romanian maps--I have several to add to the page: Romania_counties, Romania_1600, United _Principalities 1859-1878, as well as the map that in on the Portal page and then the one on the History page. But, like I said I can't get to any of them.

I also would like to add another category named Romania Cercetare for the pages that appear in Romanian. Or someone could open up a set of pages with the URL familysearch.org/learn/wiki/ro/Romania. That would be cool.

Finally, I would like to separate the Archives and Libraries page, into an Archives page and a Libraries page. I tried to do that, but only ended up creating another blank page entitled Archives. I don't remember in the training anything about splitting a page. If I rename the Archives and Libraries page, to Archives, will the link in the Portal page update? Then, I could create the new Libraries page. I don't want to mess too much with the wiki trying this out.

Thanks for all your help. If you could load the images and create the category, that would be cool, too.

Hi Sandra

Sorry I have been so long without contacting you. I have been assigned some projects here in Romania by the mission president. But now I have more time to work on the wiki again. I have added two more pages regarding military archives and the archives of the secret police. I would really like to get some more training on the Message Center, and how to fix my problems, if possible, with adding links and stuff. I have almost added all the information I have about Romania on the wiki.

I got an email from Robin Foster who asked me if I would accept the assignment to work on the Romanian pages. I accepted. She mentioned that there are chat centers on G+ (is this Google Plus?) and Skype, but both sites said I have to receive an invitation to join the group. My user name on Google and Skype is romaniangringo. Can I get an invitation? Thanks 	 Billgreen 10:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)Bill

Bill

Alaska images
Hi Sandra. Thanks for catching that. This is a now finished missionary project. Feel free to make corrections to the images where you encounter this. Murphynw 21:04, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

UGA South Davis Family History Fair
Hi Sandra....

You erased the UGA South Davis Family History Fair page..... Please restore it as it is an annual event and we are reving up our planning for the 2014 fair and need our page back. Thank you. Ginny

Done....Sandralpond 18:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for adding Somerset templates!
Murphynw 19:01, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Yorkshire question
Hi Sandra, that's a good question. I don't know the answer off the top of my head. Let me see what I can find out. Thanks!! Murphynw 17:18, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Resurrect duplicate county page?
Sandra,

There are no "town historians" in West Virginia at all. Not anywhere except one state - New York.

And Logan, West Virginia isn't a town. It is a City.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan,_West_Virginia

Dsammy 22:30, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Native American Genealogy Help
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. In an earlier email, I requested interest in moderating the Native American wiki pages and especially the Navajo wiki page. You responded back, stating that "If all the responsibilities would be OK for you. Please contact me at https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/User_talk:Sandralpond We can give you the administrator powers and get you going." I have looked over the moderator expectations and roles and would still be interested in helping. Csmallcanyon 06:36, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Answer about My Sandbox Pages
I deleted the content because the content was moved from the sandboxes to regular Wiki pages. However, we plan to reuse the sandbox pages as soon as we get more content from the National Institute for Genealogical Studies. Please do NOT delete the pages unless I put a delete note on the page. I did mark some pages to be deleted that we will no longer be using. The rest we need to keep. Thank you.MarkhamMJ

Fixi Wiki changed to Fix the Wiki
WOW, Sandra! YOU are on top of it! I forgot to sign my name to the Delete request. Someone pointed out that a "too cutesy" name could cause a lack of credibility. So I am the one who changed it.

We also tried to start a category page: Projects-Fix the Wiki. What would you like us to REALLY use for the category? Probably more in the "Hub" idea that Charles and Caleb are promoting. Thanks, AdkinsWH 23:34, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sandy
Problem

Request to delete pages
Sandra,

Thank you for your encouragement. The pages Vistafhc and VistaFHC were placed to redirect our patrons to the original FamilySearch created Vista_California_Family_History_Center.

These short versions have been useful in having the community patron locate our times and classes with the browser search engines without the need to type out the whole page address. They have also allowed us to place a shorter URL on the business card we pass out.

If there is a better way to accomplish this please advise as I'm definately a novice with the WIKI. All I've learned to do so far is expand our original stub and keep our schedule and classes up to date. Well I've also done some very minor edits on other pages as well and I do mean minor.

Thank you,

David Paskett (Pasketd)

Pasketd

Extinct Counties of Arizona
I just came across in the Family Search Wiki, a Category called Extinct Counties of Arizona created by you on 17 June 2013. I don't understand why this exists. This information already is a section on the Arizona page, called Extinct or Renamed Counties of Arizona. And there is a thorough explanation in the article called Previous Jurisdictions to land in Arizona.

Also the name is poorly chosen. There is one and only one extinct county in Arizona. That is Pah-Ute County, Arizona. And somehow that county never made it into your Category listing. You don't need a separate Category for one article.

Of the other supposed Arizona counties, 10 of them are New Mexico or Utah counties, discontinued when Arizona was created. They were never Arizona counties.

The other 3 supposed Arizona counties were proposed by an unofficial group in 1861 which then petitioned the US congress to create an Arizona Territory. Congress rejected the proposal, so those counties were never created.

Your Category is suppose to be about Extinct Counties of Arizona. But none of the counties listed were created by Arizona. So I ask again, why does your Category exist?

sabwoo 24 July 2014, 7:10 MST


 * Thank you for letting me rant. I find it frustrating when someone refuses to see a county of Arizona as created by Arizona and then make up fictious counties or history to justify their position. I had just read over the messages I had with two such contributers, when I ran across your Category. It seemed much like what I had faced before.
 * I am sorry that I was so critical. You were very diplomatic. And I have taken your suggestion and cleared up most of the problem. I removed all the New Mexico counties from before Arizona was created. But left in the ones that covered land in Arizona after Arizona was created. Thank you again for your answer.
 * sabwoo 27 July 2014, 11:10 MST

First Nations of British Columbia
I have restored, with the help of David Dilts the work I had contributed to this page earlier this week.

Why were my contributions of records, FHLC links, and WorldCat links removed from this page?

HealeyJE 14:03, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Hola Sandra, I had no idea how to send a message
I need help, 've been working on my Family History and found some info of a family member, and I would love to contact the person who posted that, so I get more info, because Im stuck in the 1850's

help please! :)

SEO Paragraphs
Hi Sandra ... I'm sorry I missed your note in chat at the Missionary meeting. I would be more than happy to help any way I can. Please feel free to e-mail me at evancol@yahoo.com and I will help.

Jane Evancol 15:51, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Wiki pages for Schleswig-Holstein and Germany
In reply to your message. I have not worked on the pages you mentioned because I was told that maps were being prepared for German areas that would be keyed to the parishes (similar to the ones that have been done for Denmark). I have been waiting for instruction as to how to proceed.

FergusonLK

Laraine

Didn't know categories for some sandbox pages
Hi, Sandra, I created some /Sandbox Temp pages, but did not know what category to assign them. They are all User:AdkinsWH/Sandbox Temp   then Home   Resources  or Records. Any ideas? Thanks, AdkinsWH 04:44, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Template category cleanup
Just complimenting you, Sandra, on the clear, understandable, and needed page.AdkinsWH 21:05, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Category:Arkansas counties
Thanks Sandra. I will fix that, especially in the Excel file for when we change over to new format (narrow or wide)AdkinsWH 20:40, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Categories for template /doc pages
Hi, Sandra! What category should a /doc page be? We have a category "Templates for the (state such as AR) pages." But what should their /doc page be categorized as? Thanks, AdkinsWH 20:12, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * But if they have the same category as the template page, the category list is doubled (and almost unreadable) in one such as . Is there any way to have a different, meaningful category for the /docs? If it has to be, then it has to be.