Talk:Cudham, Kent Genealogy

New Parish Table
Cudham parish registers of christenings, marriages and burials are available online for the following years:

To find the names of the neighboring parishes, use England Jurisdictions 1851 Map. In this site, search for the name of the parish, click on the location "pin", click Options and click List contiguous parishes.

Kent Online Parish Clerks has indexes available for select parishes. Records are also available at the Kent Archives.

Old Parish Table
parish registers of christenings, marriages and burials are available online for the following years:

Deposited Parish registers are held at Bromley Archives reference P 107

Bromley Central Library Telephone: 020 8461 7170 Fax: 020 8466 7860 e-mail: localstudies.library@bromley.gov.uk

Kent Online Parish Clerks parish page http://www.kent-opc.org/Parishes/Cudham.html contains information about the parish and links to transcripts of Church records.

Kent Online Clerks are producing complete parish register transcripts for baptismal registers, marriage registers and burial records and hope to deliver these online by Summer 2013. These will cover post 1900 events working from original records with the consent of the Diocese of Rochester and Bromley Archives.

The Cudham Composite Register no 1 Bromley Archive reference P107/1/1 is a fragile tightly bound volume with considerable fading affecting several years in the years 1653-1733 and comprises Cudham baptisms 1653-1733, marriages 1657-1731, burials 1653-1733 and banns 1654-1657. The volume also includes note of vicars 1665-1830, note of church briefs 1661-1691 and many family burial plot sizes can be ascertained from these pages at the end of the volume. The microfilm process has resulted in many duplicate images due to the faded parts of pages and it has been found beneficial to work from the original document under adjusted lighting and magnification to establish wherever possible the transcript. Sadly there are several years where no identification of entries is possible and in others year only no date or month can now be read. The original entries indicate where no original events were recorded.

The Cudham Composite Register no 2 Bromley Archive reference P107/1/2 covers the years 1733- 1763 as follows:

Cudham baptisms 1733-1762, marriages 1734-1753, burials 1733-1763

For Marriages 1755-1793 see http://www.kent-opc.org/Parishes/PRTranscripts/CudhamMar1755.html for post 1755 marriage entries and the extent of confusion of marriage register entries.

For Marriages 1793-1812 http://www.kent-opc.org/Parishes/PRTranscripts/CudhamMar1793.html

For Cudham Banns see http://www.kent-opc.org/Parishes/PRTranscripts/CudhamMB1755.html 1755-1782, 1789-1813 for comparison with the confused and often misspelled marriage entries.

The Cudham Composite Register no 3 Bromley Archive reference P107/1/3 covers the years 1763-1800 and at the beginning the arrangement of entries is explained. The entries are confused in presentation basically running to 1783 on one side of pages; then in reverse from the back of the volume. The content includes a single marriage entry from 1783 and Baptisms and Burials 1763-1800.

The original register has a number of illegible entries and there is a random distribution of entries omitted originally, thus 1767 Baptismal entry may be found in a group of 1783 Baptisms. This is in part due to economy in the use of available space in the register and the realisation of omission of earlier records (usually so described). The original register has pencil page numbers to assist searching a chronological sequence; these do not necessarily appear on the microfilm exposures. The transition between 1783 baptisms necessitates moving from page 59 to page 78 to locate all entries for the year.

The microfilm process is therefore confused and the presence of part pages withing the binding add to difficulty for the microfilm searcher.

Parish registers births and baptisms 1800-1847, archive reference call number P107/1/4 provided courtesy of Bromley Archives and Local Studies; transcripts online at Kent Online Parish Clerks http://www.kent-opc.org/Parishes/PRTranscripts/CudhamChr1800.html

Cudham Baptismal Register 1813-1847 Bromley Archive reference P/107/1/5 Kent Online Parish Clerks Transcript http://www.kent-opc.org/Parishes/PRTranscripts/CudhamBur1800.html

The Cudham Baptismal register 1847-1917 Bromley Archive reference P/107/1/6. http://www.kent-opc.org/Parishes/PRTranscripts/CudhamChr1847.html

The Cudham Marriage register 1813- 1837 Bromley Archive reference P/107/1/10 contains the marriage of Thomas Landseer and his wife Belinda, see Thomas Landseer1794/5-1880

Cudham Burial Register 1813-1875 Bromley Archives reference P/107/1/17 contains 800 burial entries plus additional entries on a loose sheet for the remainder of the year 1875. There is duplication of entries for the year 1832. The original register with numbered entries contains 3 of a four page insert which has no register numbers but appears to be a transcript of all entries for the year. Online Transcripts are available at Kent Online Parish Clerks http://www.kent-opc.org/Parishes/PRTranscripts/CudhamBur1813.html

Cudham Burial Register 1875-1907 Bromley Archives reference P/107/1/18 contains 400 burial entries until April 1907.

Bishop's Transcripts for Cudham are found online at FamilySearch ( see also England, Kent, Bishop's Transcripts, 1560-1904 – DB) in the Historical Records England, Kent, Bishop's Transcripts, 1560-1911 series based on Microfilm conversion to digital images based upon Baptisms and burials, 1719, 1746, 1801-1812; Marriages, 1719, 1801-1812. Family History Library BRITISH Film 1469179 Item 11 Baptisms, 1814-1825, 1898; Burials, 1813-1825, 1898; Marriages, 1814-1825. Family History Library BRITISH Film 1469337 Item 3. See England, Kent, Parish Registers and Bishop's Transcripts (FamilySearch Historical Records)

Online Parish Clerks
Kent Online Parish Clerks with the approval of the Diocese of Rochester and Bromley Archives will be undertaking a parish register transcript for this parish during 2012/2013 to accompany the existing transcript series for Downe, Kent and Keston, Kent parishes. The parish registers for all three parishes are valuable for those with traveller family history (including post 1837 births and burials which do not appear in civil registration records in the South Bromley sub districts for civil registration). DowneOPC 15:11, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Addition of gazetteer reference
The addition of a gazetteer reference disrupted the page and required restoration. I have no particular objection to inclusion of a gazetteer reference but might it not have been placed elsewhere in the existing parish history rather than at the beginning? It adds little to a detailed existing history and seems almost mechanical in process and content. The text which had been incorrectly headlined has been restored and the image caption removed by the edit restored. It would also have been useful if an intended additional reference might have been discussed using this page before being added!

DowneOPC 07:56, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

The creation of the Kent Online Parish Clerks page for this parish includes all available gazeteer references. This raises the question of the value of a single quoted gazeteer reference on the page. DowneOPC 10:04, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

FamilySearch Cooperative Indexing Agreement
Kent Online Parish Clerks requested a Cooperative Indexing Agreement in Summer 2012; the transcription of original material has been undertaken without response from FamilySearch (January 2013) and therefore transcript material online at the Kent Online Parish Clerks site from January 2013 is copyright of Kent Online Parish Clerks. Additional copy will be provided to Bromley Archive by agreement.

The transcription team are disappointed at FamilySearch failure to implement the agreement which parish and Archive had agreed to.DowneOPC 10:04, 21 January 2013 (UTC)