User:Batsondl/Sandbox

Courthouse
(if there is more than 1 address, keeping one address in infobox)

No, I disagree...we should leave mulitple addresses in the template. Having it "sometimes" in one spot and then "sometimes" in another is confusing to the beginner. It needs to be in only one place. The template is the designated spot. BatsonDL 16:26, 21 June 2011 (UTC)


 * It BLOWS up the infobox sky high, leaving huge empty white space on left side. Turning into a very long column is not practical or useful since County clerk's and circuit court clerk's duties are very different, circuit's has very little of anything but probate and everything else is law enforcement. Thread about this in forum. Dsammy 18:31, 21 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Made phone call to Circuit Court clerk office in Illinois. What they do is pretty much opposite of what is usually done in other states. Circuit Courts maintain everything going back to early days except birth, marriage and deaths, tax, voting registers which are handled by county clerks. This make Circuit Court priority. County Clerk's addresses need to be listed in Courthouse section instead of infobox with simple explanations. Dsammy 19:04, 21 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Is the problem with text headings that won't wrap the real issue with the length of the county info box? If the info box didn't create a large white gap, the length wouldn't matter, right? So how do we fix the issue with the headings so that it doesn't matter the number of court houses that need to be listed? Lise 03:01, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That is not what I am referring to. I'm referring to the fact the column get stretched longer top to bottomif added addresses are added and what is worse, the circuit and county clerks maintain separate website addresses and not all look same as it is in case of Bureau County which are very different, and the left column become more vacant. Now somebody else mentioned another but very serious problem with the SEO (search engine optimization in case anyone wonder) and suggested subpage off a single link in Infobox to larger page with more info for courthouse addresses and their areas of records. Illinois is unique that their records are not co-mingled. They're separate with specific coverage. I'm mindful of New York since there can be as many as 5 different offices responsible for different records. My recommendation we hold off add anything to infobox until several aspects of this problem are resolved. Dsammy 09:21, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Historical Facts
H3 heading

Places/Localities
should be H3 heading since the locality template will not wrap??

Neighboring Counties
('Populated Places' and 'Neighboring Counties' being replaced with Locality Template.)

Public Libraries
Heading is reedundant with Archives, Libraries and Museums. "I don't think it's really redundant because it is one of several subordinate items in the list. And I'd probably defer to the 'high school English class' method of deciding whether to bulletize or itemize a list. Two or more in a section, to me, may warrant dividing the list and including subheadings. If there are a number of facilities in the area, there would be headings for 'Archives' (i.e., IRAD -Illinois Regional Archives Depository...) and 'Museums,' right? Lise 03:10, 22 June 2011 (UTC)"

Biography
This may be a really dumb question, but what is this section supposed to contain/represent? Is it a listing of family surnames common to that county/area? Is it a listing of names that appear in published genealogies for that county? Is it supposed to list the names of people for whom published biographies are available? This has always confused me. I'm guessing that if it confuses me, it confuses others, too. Maybe? Lise 03:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC) "Ooops. In my summary, I called this the 'Biographies' section - which reminds me... Most of the section titles are plural. This one is singular. Why? Lise 03:05, 22 June 2011 (UTC)"
 * Biography is standard spelling found not just in FHL Catalog but also everywhere else, in public libraries, LOC, university libraries, etc, too. Dilts is adamant about uniformity of subject headings to ensure confusion be kept to absolute minimum. The biography subject - refers to books like this one.
 * I don't know about Lise, but I want a better answer than "because lots of important libraries do it that way." :) If I'm going to use a convention consistently, it needs to be memorable. Conventions that seem inconsistent aren't memorable. But if there's actually a good _reason_ why biography is singular where most everything else is plural, I'll find the reason easy to remember because it seems so counterintuitive. So why does the Library of Congress and others use the singular "biography?" Some of us need to know the why before we can remember rules that don't seem to make sense. :) RitcheyMT 04:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe Dilts can answer this question better than I do. He's the one who's adamant on subjects being uniform. Dsammy 07:55, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Societies
This is a problem - involving the Societies. See DuPage County, Illinois - see Web Sites below, for same comment.

Web Sites
This is a problem - involving the Societies. See DuPage County, Illinois