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Wales

Dowlais

Pengarddu

Glamorgan

Edwards Family Tree

Powell Family Tree: I have found a family tree online (30 April 2011) and see some errors and ommissions there:

1. Ancestral record for John Powell b. 1871 d. 1945 (AFN: 11No-NP). Elizabeth Lilian James (2 'l's' in Lilian not 3 as shown on her death certificate dated 20 Feb. 1963 ( have an original copy) registered at Neath district in the sub-district of Port Talbot. the certificate is signed by Ivor Jonathan Powell, her son, of 21 Lingfield Avenue, Port Talbot (Ivor not yet included as a son of John Powell). E. L. Powell nee James died aged 87 years. Certificate number XF 563390. (AFN: 11NO-NQ5)

2. Frederick James Powell's death has not yet been added to the tree. He was born in Gellingaer, Glamorgan and not in Frochriw which does not exist as far as I know. His death was on the 2nd of January 1975 (I have a copy of the death certificate in my possession). Registered at Neath District, administrative County of West Glamorgan (Glamorgan was split into 3 administrative counties some years earlier). Fred never married and has no issue that we know of. AFN: 11NO-NRC.

3. Frederick's certificate was signed by his brother, (now deceased) Brynly John Powell of 2 King Street, Port Talbot. Brynly (Bryn) had two sons and a daughter and was married to Dorethy (Dolly), he died some years later than Fred.

4. AFN: KCOP-NN Jonathan Powell Child (4) (AFN: 11NO-POR) I suspect the name is spelled wrongly, never heard of a name Divid, probably means David and the abbreviation should be Dai not Di. Dai is a universal abbreviation for David in Wales.

5. All the place names in (4) above read Pengarnddu, Pengarnddu is a street not a town and should be entered as Dowlais, the street Pengarnddu sits at Dowlias Top.

6. Child (3) has the designationSo. Wales',''' this is not a valid convention and should merely be Glamorgan for Glamorganshire. Everyone Knows where Glanorgan is, it is not necessary to enter South Wales. If there were two Glamorgans it would be necessary, the usage which is not common confuses matters when people are looking for New South Wales, a province of Australia.

This is my first entry, I am endeavouring to trace line from great-grandfather Edwards and blend with the Powel Family tree. E W Edwards b. 1860 married a Miss Shenton (anectdotal) of Lancs. Strangely enough my great-grandfather Jonathan Powell also originated in Dowlais, from a street named Pengarnddu, Dowlais Top. Evan Edwards went in to the ministry and Jonathan Powell's son went into mining and mining engineering. Certificate number: IN 292619.

Some of the places still exist some demolished but their records exist i.e. chapel records, grave yards.

I have used the index to find my Grandfather's name from his initials E.W. (Evan William) but only have the one church record to show his existance, the amazing thing is the indexes confirm his history from the church record. From the church record I found his chapel, Hermon, now demolished but a book exisits written in 1905 given photographs and lists of elders and choral leaders, one of these leaders was a John Edwards.

There are a number of index records that show and prove the Church account is accurate:

1. 1861 census shows a son aged 1 year name E W Edwards, born 1860, son of householder

2. 1881 census shows E W E aged 21, relative, living at Ystradyfodwg which is the old name for the Rhondda Valley, and a photo of the house is on the internet with the sale price. Interestingly he is listed as a student and in particular for the Calvinistic Methodists, the organisation he eventually spends his lifes work with. He is listed as a realtive and the wife of the householder is listed as Margaret Ada Howells, on more research this ties up with a Margaret A. Edwards born 1859 in Dowlais. It is possible his aprents hve died and the house become the property of the daughter and Evan stays there whilst studying at Swansea and Cardiff for 5. 1/2 years.

3. 1891 census shows Evan living in the civil parish of Laugharne and this record ties in with the church account. The church account states that he was ordained there in 1891, his first church as an ordianed minister.

4. The 1901 census shows an Evan W. Edwards living in Bedwelty in Monmouthshire, aged 41 and his birthplace Dowlias, so this could be the same person as my great-grandfather.

It has been a busy three days but a rewarding one. I would also like to trace the Howel line from 1881 and see what happened to them.