Talk:Fairview, Utah

When I am made aware of conflicts between contributors I generally try to let the community handle it. However, in this case I am going to step in and try to moderate what is going on. Since I know both of you this is harder, I hope you don't mind that I will refer to you by your Wiki username.

I have read the discussion page for the Sanpete page, which brought me to the Fairview page. I specifically looked at the history for the page and I see something interesting. I see that Familyjournals created the page as a small outline or stub. According to her notes it was to help teach future contributors who are new to the Wiki. I see that exactly three hours later Dsammy completely revised the page and put in quite a bit of new information. Ordinarily I would say that this is good. However, I need to ask Dsammy one important question: What made you decide to work on Fairview? Fran Jensen is the moderator for UT, so it is not under your purview at all. Do you have relatives there? Why Fairview at this time? 3-hours after a stub was created--and it looks like about 3 really good hours of research went into finding the information that was added.

It looks to me that you saw that a page was created (patrolling) and decided for whatever reason to fill in the information. It could be that you wanted to show them what a good page looks like. But understand that it also looks like you are digitally stalking Familyjournals--by that I mean looking for entries by her so that you can either show her you are more knowledgeable, or just give her a hard time. Again, I am not judging, just going by the facts and trying to understand. I have a hard time believing that you just happened to pick Fairview right after she created a stub.

Let me now make some recommendations. First of all while we have discussed standards and templates for page styles, we have not decided on an enforceable standard. Therefore, no one should be enforcing standards that do not exist. Next, any sort of coaching or mentoring should be done by the moderator for this section, which is Fran Jensen, not Dsammy. Third, coming in and making wholesale changes within hours of someone creating a page is not fair. You have to give them some time to come in and complete it as they would want it to look, with the information they have. You cannot expect someone to do all of this in one sitting or in one day. You have to give them time. So do not jump on new pages. The only patrolling that should be done is to make sure that there is nothing inappropriate. Period. Moderators for each geography can mentor as needed. Dsammy you are being too agressive and too harsh in your tone. Familyjournals, I will make suggestions on how not to fan the flames on the Sanpete page.

I would ask you both to leave each other's pages alone. That means that if Dsammy creates a page Familyjournals should not patrol, edit, comment or change that page in any way. Conversely, if Familyjournals creates a page, the same goes for Dsammy.

Dsammy, if you patrol new pages only do so for appropriateness of content or for areas where you already have information to add, and then only after the page has been allowed to sit for a few days. Continue to work on barn rasing pages as asked or as you voluntreer. Leave moderation tasks to the assigned moderators. Both of you need to stay off each other's pages for a while. If this continues to escalate I will have to enforce a temporary ban from the Wiki.

Jimgreene 18:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)