Template talk:BaltFire

Bug testing
Using this template, that has been created as a workaround for a bug, to try and find what the problem is so that it can be documented for the engineers.

Using the template
1904: Great Baltimore Fire left 35,000 without jobs.

Using the Wpd template
1904: left 35,000 without jobs.

Coded by hand
1904: Great Baltimore Fire left 35,000 without jobs.

Using Cite web template
1904: Great Baltimore Fire left 35,000 without jobs.

Link not used as a reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Great_Baltimore_Fire&amp;oldid=269520358

Testing results
I added another example of how it is possible to do this, but using Wpd completely (it is missing source citation information). I noticed that the reference that they created is pointing to an archive version of the article. I am not sure why this might be and it does not seem like a good idea without using what should be the permalink. If you look at the the "Coded by hand" example has multiple "amp;" following the '&amp;' character. This shows what happens when switching in and out of Wikitext &amp; WYSIWYG (or the other way around). . . only when the '&amp;' is within a pair. Thomas_Lerman 17:23, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


 * If you view the cite this page link from the article you will see that David Dilts is using the Chicago style. That being the case I do not think the example using the Wpd template is good enough for a full bibliographic citation. What has happened to code by hand example shows that the problem is still existing but only when the rich text editor is used. --Steve 17:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that the full citation is not being used correctly in that example. What I am suggesting is maybe expanding the template to create the citation. I admit that I do not know that much about the different styles. Is showing possibly an old version of the article what is suggested? Anyway, back to the problem . . . I saw 1 (valid '&amp;') + 3 (invalid "amp;"). When I edited and went into Wikitext, I see 1+4. Thomas_Lerman 17:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. Coming in for this P.S., I see 1+4 displayed and in the Editor's box when hit the "  " in the toolbar with 1+5 when going into Wikitext. Going to WYSIWYG still shows 1+5 and going back to Wikitext shows 1+6. In other words, switching from WYSIWYG to Wikitext is where the problem occurs. Expanding Wpd may work, but even better may be using cite web as you did with your new example. Thomas_Lerman 18:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oops, I spoke too soon. The URL used in cite web is still within the ref tag, so it still has the same problem. Thomas_Lerman 18:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes still the same problem. I thought that the plain URL would have got messed up too, but it hasn't. I hunted around and found this reference to fckeditor bug 2544 which seems to match what we are experiencing. The last post gives a fix for the fckplugin.js --Steve
 * Thank you for checking that out. It is a busy day for me, so I was not able to search for it. I hope that works. It would be nice to fix the problems David is trying to get around with all of these templates. We can check out the other problem too. I am creating a similar test page for HBLL (the other problem). Thomas_Lerman 18:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)