User talk:Dsammy/Sandbox4

This is a FLAT idea as proposed by some contributors. Dsammy 02:29, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Comments:

Personally I do not like this since thee is a method under development that will collaspe portions of the TOC as needed. Dsammy 02:29, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a cut at this, Dsammy.

I was envisioning a full level "flatter," so that everything currently on level 4 (for example), would become level 3. Currently, the first level (whether you use Style level 3 or level 2) includes only two subject headings. But 80%+ of the content is found under the second heading. The first heading wasn't really leading readers into the most important information. So putting the content from that first heading (Historical Facts, Parent County, and Boundary Changes) into other places on the page (not "flattening" them a layer - so put Historical Facts as part of History, put Parent County info into the Info Box, and placing Boundary Changes under either History or Land and Property) allows all levels to shift up by one place.

Parent County is pretty important information, so I suggested that be added to the County Info Box. I checked this morning, and there is already a Parent County parameter available in the template.

Additionally, I suggested removing the subheadings under "Repositories" and simply listing all repositories alphabetically, whether they were archives, libraries, Family History Centers, or whatever. So I'm really proposing that there be no additional granularity of topics under repositories, meaning that those subheadings would disappear completely, rather than be "flattened" to the alphabetical list of topics. I think this works really well with the Courthouse pages, which link off the County Info Box.

Similarly, I think the subtopics under Probate should be removed, not "flattened" a layer.

To summarize:


 * 1) Shift content from Historical Facts, Parent County, and Boundary Changes into other parts of the page.
 * 2) Move all major topics to the same first level (whatever style you choose to use - Heading 2 or Heading 3 or whatever).
 * 3) Eliminate subheadings on some topics, e.g., Probate Records, Repositories. (others?)

Lise 13:27, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Response to above:


 * 1) Subtopics are not limited to Probate, they're in many other subject groups (History, Societies, Repositories, Biographies, Newspapers, etc.) Lumping togther without clear types, making it hard to research. Catalog has subsections abeit slightly different because it isn't wiki.
 * 2) As for parent county in infobox, it becomes a problem when parent county is not a single county, causing the infobox to bloat, what about changed names? Quite a number of counties' names were changed later, some twice. Tryon County, New York became Montgomery County. Wasco County, Oregon created from SEVEN counties in Oregon Territory. What about additional portions?
 * 3) Hiding the information about divisions and dates do hinder the researcher.

Dsammy 16:18, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


 * This definitely has a cleaner look but I also agree with Lise - I like having some sub-levels. I think it's easier on the eye. I'm still struggling with taking out specific info about the county from the top of the page. It's kind of hidden under "history" and like Sammy says, doesn't leave much space to discuss in the County Info box. Is there another way to do it? I'm at a loss but maybe someone else has a suggestion for a heading that might be a place to give details about the county but still be easy to locate. Like County Information?  Or County Details?  County Origins? Anyone else feel that way? BatsonDL 16:25, 23 September 2011 (UTC)