Talk:User group meeting agenda & minutes 20 August 2008

Log in and Directed to Main Page instead
Unlike Wikipedia - if one log in somewhere other than Main Portal, you are directed back to Main Portal instead of the one you came in. Any way to correct this problem? dsammy 19:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

This is a carryover from last meeting. It was working over the weekend like it should - that is "log in" and "stay in" instead of being redirected back to Main page. This morning, it is back to what it was. Not happy with change back. dsammy 16:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

David, that last one could be related to running antispyware software and sometimes those tend to trash some cookies, sometimes without warning, when doing a scan. I am running Spybot S&amp;D. AVG Free 8.0.138, and AdAware 2007 and after running Spybot or AVG sometimes my login cookie is wiped out. All you have to do is log in again and you are set. JamesAnderson 05:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Townships and Cities

 * This is an area of concern for me.
 * Especially AFTER the updated shells are put in, the tagline get changed to the one that do NOT reflect the actual places.
 * Georgia don't have as much as a township at all. It is either Town, Village or City.
 * New York don't have City in every county, not even hamlet. And it isn't Township. It's "Town". I assure you the locals don't bark, they BITE hard if their Towns are referred as Townships. Nasty, too. I know because I work with New York's town historians for last 12 years. Wikipedia is good source to find the type of local names used in each state. (Oregon don't have as much a single Township at all, much less Town - only Incorporated Cities and UNincorporated communities, that's it except for one county that actually have Hamlets and Villages, around Mount Hood, being a native Oregonian.) Here's one Hamlet of Beavercreek - as described for this one by Wikipedia, Formation of hamlet
 * In the summer of 2006, the citizens of Beavercreek voted to become Oregon's first hamlet, a system of quasi-government which exists in Oregon. A final hearing by the board of county commissioners on the formation of the hamlet took place in September, 2006, and officially recognized the community as the Hamlet of Beavercreek. [1] The hamlet holds monthly community meetings at the Beavercreek Grange hall, except for quarterly town hall meetings, which may be held at other locations to accommodate attendance; frequently Beavercreek Elementary School is used.
 * The CDPs as defined by Wikipedia are usually the generic communities.
 * Greater New York City (that is 5 boroughs,) none have a city, none have a village, none have a township, none have a hamlet. Instead of that, they are called NEIGHBORHOODS.


 * Bottom line - check the state and county as to what they call their local places. Use these definitions.

dsammy 23:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Update as of evening of 19 August, a solution worked out, is available to do away with the tricky line. "Place Names" in lieu of the "Cities, etc" and move up to alphabetical position for each county. Also a solution had been offered to resolve the shells already in place (take care of the US counties that do not have shells yet, first, then replace the old shells in several states, leaving the persons who are more familiar with place names to make the modifications in the counties already have the best version of shells. dsammy 04:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just this morning - became aware of a potential problem with "Place Names". It is too "catch all". May I suggest "Populated Places" instead. It is what United States Board on Geographic Names (better known to many as GNIS) to define any place that has or used to have population centers. dsammy 17:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

'Wiki' = 'What I Know Is'.
I'm at Education Week this week, tomorrow I'll hear Jim Greene's presentation on the wiki, and just after Bill Mangum mentioned the wiki at the tail end of his presentation, someone said that in addition to the Hawaiian word, the term 'Wiki' also is an acronym. WIKI therefore equals 'What I Know Is'.

I'll have a report of Jim Greene's presentation up late tomorrow night. I'll put it on the user group page, as this audience will be of largely potential users. It's being done in the Varsity Theater at BYU, which holds just under 400 people, and the room was packed today for Bill Mangum's presentation as it was. JamesAnderson 04:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Update: That report is now posted on hte article page for this user group meeting for reference. JamesAnderson 04:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)